[OutVoice] The QTube GLBT Music Videos On Demand

Len Rogers SWS len at stonewallsociety.com
Wed Jan 30 15:06:16 EST 2008


Bill,
    I am not an artist. I would not be posting. I tried to make it clear this was a question for the artists to decide. I am only involved as the list owner who was asked. The information needs to be clearly stated to the artists. My post, (included below), was referring to questions asked of me about QTube by an artist on this list who was responding about your first post. As I do not represent QTube and was not sent information prior to your post, I did not have the answers. Ergo the post to which you responded. As the OutVoice list owner I will always expect to be informed about the use of this list to promote a service, website, or commercial venture prior to the promotion. I have a commitment to these artists to maintain that list. One I take very seriously. That you did not seek permission to post and that previous emails have gone unanswered created a question in my mind. 
    The issue here is two-fold. One being the questions raised. As you have responded with your answers, (included below),  they along with this post will be added to the list. This was meant to be a public discussion. I assume if artists have questions they will respond. I have already received a response from one artist who feels the QTube site is of great value to the GLBT arts community. My goal is to see the information is passed. You have submitted information I will post that. 
   The second issue is your use of the OutVoice list without at least making me aware of the site and what it offers. As this was posted on the OutVoice list which is moderated, the artist had every right to assume I supported QTube. As well to contact me for my opinion of QTube and the questions previously raised. Had I been informed, I could have at least said I was aware of QTube and had no problems. Your post placed both QTube and myself in an awkward position. It is not my responsibility to seek the information. It is the responsibility of the poster to seek appropriate approval and share information before use. Please, in the future promote fairly, professionally, and in a positive manner by alerting those list / promotional services you use first. I have always been eager to promote positive services to artists. I admittedly am not happy with the position in which your actions have placed me. 
Sincerely;
Len Rogers
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Bill Northrup 
  To: Len Rogers SWS 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 2:04 PM
  Subject: Re: [OutVoice] The QTube GLBT Music Videos On Demand


  Len,
       In answer to your questions.

  1. The Terms Of Service is identical to the one used on YouTube. If an artist is comfortable posting their video on YouTube than QTube is no different. It is totally up to the artist if he wants to submit a video.

  2. As for the ads running on the site we can't control the content as to what ads run.

  3. The QTube is not out to make money. We don't charge money for people to use our site or require a membership. Running the ads only helps cover the operating costs of running the site.

  The QTube was started to give LGBT artists another avenue to promote their music.

  I hope this has answered your questions. 

                                   Bill


  On Jan 30, 2008 1:03 PM, Len Rogers SWS <len at stonewallsociety.com> wrote:

    I recently was sent some questions regarding this site, QTube, and artistic ownership issues. One area being section C under User Submissions. http://theqtube.com/pages/terms.html  I have not seen an answer to those questions as of yet. In reading further down the page, link provided, I see several areas of potential question. As a list managed to assist artists, I expect information on new websites and services to be provided to me the list owner before promotion on the OutVoice list. This is pretty standard on any list. Which is why you see things like "With the list owner's permission". 
    I was also quite surprised by a Christian dating service ad on this site which I could find no provision for same sex relationships. In addition this is obviously a commercial money making website, are artists being compensated? I request no further promotion of QTube on the OutVoice list until either these questions are answered or at least discussed by artists on this list. I have also withheld any referrals to this website till these questions are answered. So artists, let me know. You are the art holders, is this all ok or does there need to be a discussion here?
    Sincerely,
    Len Rogers
    Founder
    StoneWall Society
    www.stonewallsociety.com
    www.stonewallsociety.net

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    www.stonewallsociety.net/ArtMall !
     
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      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Bill Northrup 
      To: Outvoice at outvoice.net 
      Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 12:20 PM
      Subject: [OutVoice] The QTube GLBT Music Videos On Demand


      Thank you to all the GLBT artists that have submitted music videos to The
      QTube. The site has been a success because of you.

      If you haven't checked out the site yet go to http://theqtube.com

      More videos are being added daily so keep coming back to see what's new.

      This is a great way for people to see music videos by GLBT artists all in
      one place.

      All artists on The QTube are either GLBT or if it's a group at least one
      member is GLBT.

      There is a banner page if you would like to use one to promote your video on
      The QTube. http://theqtube.com/pages/banners.html

      Once again thanks for the support.

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